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Posted: Apr 14 2016 (11:06)

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Apr 14 2016 (11:06)   12429/Lucknow - New Delhi AC SF Express | LKO/Lucknow Charbagh NR (9 PFs)
Dinesh Singh~
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Entry# 1802592            Tags   Past Edits
Systematic/Dramatic change in our very own 12429/30 NDLS-LKO-NDLS AC Express
* It commenced its journey in the year 2008 (please confirm) as a triweekly AC Express (12233/34) between Lucknow and New Delhi with almost identical timings from both the ends. Days of operations were: Sun,Tues,Fri for 12233 and Mon,Wed,Sat for 12234.
* Between these two stations, a triweekly Duronto (12271/72) was started on feb 07/08, 2010 with Moradabad as sole halt (technical), on alternate days of the weeks. This left only one day of the week, when a train was not available
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on the same timings from Lucknow and New Delhi. Days of operations were: Mon,Thus,Sat for 12271 and Sun,Tues,Fri for 12272
* Interestingly, amongst rail fans, it was the topic of discussion whether these siblings share their apparels (RAKES) or enjoy their own. Another, topic of HOT discussion used to be to extend this train to GKP, BSB, bla bla stations.
* Back then, this train was used to be hauled by not-so-advanced WDM3A locos of LKO, TKD sheds, which added charm into its beauty with hard chugging. Although as rail enthusiasts claim, it was also seen roaming with stud WDP-4 loco, sometimes.

* It is to be noted here that after receiving suggestions from rail fans/passengers, IR decided to collapse these two trains to form a single train to run daily since jun 15/16, 2014 between these two stations, keeping the timings as well as the run-time intact.
* Money minded IR, then categorized this new baby as Rajdhani Express, where food cost was not included in the train fare, because of the scheduled late departure at night from LKO/NDLS and scheduled early arrival in the morning at NDLS/LKO.
* But, still after being upgraded to rajdhani class, its boyfriend remaimed the same, i.e. WDM-3A class.
* At that point of time, there was some confusion over its source station in UP direction, when IR made up its mind to hand over this train to NER (LJN) instead of NR (LKO) and thought of giving a new identification number i.e. 12529/12530. However, after some rounds of meetings by the officials, it was finally agreed upon to continue its service
from untidy station of NR i.e. LKO instead of tidy station of NER i.e. LJN and then it finally received its number as 12429/30, proving an NR train. Here, the main motive of shifting this train from LKO to LJN, was to unclog the busy LKO station.
* Furthermore, after couple of months, with displeasure/opposition/confusion of passengers over its Rajdhani status, it was again converted into an AC Express since Aug 16, 2015.
* Once, IR experimented on this overnight train by adding an AC chair car coach into it. Although, it was removed after couple of journeys for some reason. It is heard, that this AC chair car used to go fully packed to its capacity.
* Rail enthusiasts were cheered when they came around WDP-4 class locos, which are not only fuel efficient but also having faster acceleration than their previous counterparts, hauling this train regularly.
* But again, with the electrification of much awaited GZB-MB section, this train was made to ditch its stud boyfriend (WDP-4) again to go after a new hulk, i.e. electric loco WAP-4 series locos. Shortly soon after, another boyfriend change was witnessed in this train when it started getting WAP-5 locos of GZB shed frequently.
* Till this point, the train had been running with old/very old ICF coaches bearing 130 KMPH as maximum permissible speed of the coaches. However, from within, the coaches were said to be remained well maintained, as well as tidy.
* Eventually, IR thought about the passengers' comfort and safety and in the process provided brand new LHB coaches to this ex-(AC-Duronto)-Rajdhani AC Express since Apr 11, 2016 from NDLS and Apr 12, 2016 from LKO end. It is still unknown, at this point of time, whether these LHB coaches are 130 kmph fit or higher. It is worth mentioning here, that route MPS is 100/110 KMPH, as informed by rail veterans.
So this is the history of 12429/30 LKO-NDLS-LKO AC Express, which is now running with LHB coaches, being hauled by WAP-4/WAP5 loco, having halts at GZB, MB, BE stations, running on almost same schedule (it has been speed-ed down, once, to the best of my knowledge). Hence, it can be observed that in the recent time, this train has got complete makeover.
If any of the above points/data need modification/correction/missing, kindly inform me by giving comments.
thanks in advance

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Apr 14 2016 (15:58)
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Re# 1802592-6              
Yes there were some crew related operational reasons. Hence the stoppage.
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Apr 14 2016 (17:28)
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THE REAL, BEHIND SCENE STORY for LUCKNOW NEW DELHI AC Epress not known by many....
aur ispe hua harr Passenger friendly decision, Lucknow Vyapar Mandal dwara kia gaya tha :D from its introduction as tri-weekly to recent LHB allotment....
if realinside story you want to know..its is as follows....
after Shatabdi and LKO Mail's AC demands increased, a tri-weekly train was ran after Lucknow
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Vyapar Mandall(this organisation has the strongest control over City's ongoing development and welfare. moreover a Strong asset of BJP, who are big lovers of Mayor Dinesh Sharma, belonging to BJP.Dinesh SHarma being a high reputed Member of BJP, being just mayor his said words arent just words, more of order to OTHERS)..as per many members of this mandal, the main demand was that a train which was identical to Lucknow mail(in timings i.e. overnight, with same priority, ac coaches and would drop New delhi around Lucknow Mail as the basic needs of Lucknow Market are fulfilled from Delhi they wanted a Vyapari to reach in morning, complete his work same day and return same day)basically 90% shopkeepers submitted this request to LKO NR, they submitted their all demands regarding type of train and TT expctd...basically one train was first introducd as tri weekly..just because the markets of Lucknow mostly either remain close on Thursday or Sunday..that was the reason why they wanted this train to deprt LKO on wed and sat so that they cud reach on thursday and sunday order their things and return to work back on Friday and Monday....the train got sanctioned on 100% demand of them..since the demand was too high for migrants also, the train duranto was also introducd, catering the rush, but this time RB or LKO NR ignored the WILL of Vyapar Mandall....the train escaped Wed and traveled on Thu to NDLS, this was big blow..due to which they had to close their market on FRI, which would have caused them crores of loss cause market of EAST up is controlled by Lucknow hence a big affair was raised by them yet again to make this train DAILY..Railway yet again tried to do something by themselves by trying to run it from LJN..still members disagreed and demanded it from LKO only..the demand got passed just due to their pressure and their LaRGE number forced them to do so..everything was fyn when, LKO NR was overjoyed with its success and decided to make some money out of it and make it RAJDHANI....getting aware with situations Vyapar Mandall members soon visted DRM LKO and demanded its Rajdhani tag only if LHB where alloted cause ICF was uncomfortable and very old...Once again LKO NR had to surrender in front of them..LHB got alloted but unfortunately it got transferred to some other train which had to be introducd on short notice, dont remember which...the Vyapar Mandall yet again went against DRM LKO and finally railway had to revert its decision and make it AC SF....by all this proceedings DRM LKO took a great lesson to not to make any changes in this train...meanwhile htey kept on demanding its LHBfication when finally on 11 april it got sanctioned....

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Apr 20 2016 (22:37)
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Great piece of information
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Apr 20 2016 (22:39)
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Excellent plot of past to present timeline given by you.
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Apr 20 2016 (22:41)
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I think that every minute detail of this train has been covered in this presentation. Really can't ask for anything more
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