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Blog Entry# 4230864
Posted: Feb 14 2019 (07:26)

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Last Response: Feb 17 2019 (16:58)
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Feb 14 2019 (07:26)   22221/Mumbai CSMT - Hazrat Nizamuddin Rajdhani Express | KSRA/Kasara (4 PFs) | GZB/WAP-7/30277
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1st Time in History CR Rajdhani Push-Pull Mode with WAP-7 Twins #30277 front- 30483rear
Depart in Kasara station.
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Feb 17 2019 (16:05)
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Interesting. Per my understanding, locomotives were not allowed to exceed the speed listed on the certificates RDSO had issued for them. For diesel locomotives, I've seen that these limits are respected even on tracks that have a higher MPS and on trains where theoretically a higher speed of operation should be possible.

You can click here for a list of all speed certificates. Note that more recent ones supersede earlier certificates. Now I see that on Rajdhani routes locomotives are cleared for much higher speed but I don't see a WAP-4
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certificate on there. The latest WAP-4 certificate on mainline routes sets a limit of 120 kmph.

Does anyone know what the story here is?

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Feb 17 2019 (16:33)
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Its not like that . Rdso has so many papers with amendment ..
To know a loco operational speed .. look into cab ..
Always written ..
Operational speed of locos .
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: 140 kmph
Wap 4 : 140 kmph
Wap 5 : 160 kmph (2 locos - 200 kmph)
Wap 7 : 140 kmph
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Seems you haven't read the document properly. On the first line itself, it is mentioned "final maximum permissible speed of WAP-4 class of locomotive on tracks maintained to OTHER THAN C&M-I Vol-I standards". All 130 kmph tracks are considered under C&M-I Vol-I standards. (only NDLS-HWH via Gaya, NDLS-BPL, NDLS-LDH and NDLS-MMCT via kota as of now).
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Feb 17 2019 (16:51)
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I didnt read that ..i just asked ..he told me all route ..then i rectified it ..
Also other routes are not allowed to go above 110 kmph so its useless for other ..
Btw in trials wap 1 did 128 kmph during inspection of high rise ohe btw dee - re amd i dont think that route is maintained to c&m 1 vol1 standards ..
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In Indian Railways, factor of safety is always around 20%. That's why speed trials are always done at much higher speeds than permissible speed for regular operations. (ex. T18 and Gatimaan trials were done at 180 kmph, but both are restricted to 160 kmph only).
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